Episode Recaps

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EPISODE 0 – 9/12/16
Carolina Insider Pod Teaser (0:28)
Guest
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Highlights
– Perhaps best known for its brevity, episode zero touched off a period of unparalleled anticipation. No one has heard from that big voiced guy since.
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EPISODE 1 – 9/20/16
Jones Angell and Adam Lucas review the UNC win over JMU and more (41:51)
Guest
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Highlights
– The maiden voyage of the pod.
– First mention of a world headquarters, though it was “Chapel Hill Carolina Insider World Headquarters,” which was only later shortened to the Pod World Headquarters we know today.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– “It sounds like Tony Bradley is going to be pretty good.” That was correct.
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EPISODE 2 – 9/23/16
Jones and Adam Preview Pitt and chat with Mack Brown (54:43)
Guest
Mack Brown
Highlights
– First guest is Mack Brown and little did we know that Mack would be back at UNC a scant 795 days later.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– “What we learned from that is if Donnie Thompson tries to shake your hand, you shake the man’s hand.” Unfortunately, in 2020 and beyond, no one shakes hands anymore.
– “Their goal now is to not make [the 2015 football season] a 1-year thing.” Well…
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EPISODE 3 – 9/27/16
Jones and Adam break down the win over Pitt (52:22)
Guest
None
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– “I hope he’s here for a million years. Gene Chizik, never leave.” Sadly, wound up being here juuuuuust a little shy of a million years.
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EPISODE 4 – 9/30/16
Jones and Adam look ahead to Florida State and spend some time with Marcus Paige (59:20)
Guest
Marcus Paige
Highlights
– Marcus’ scouting report on the 2017 team: “Somebody is gonna have to step up and shoot the ball well aside from Joel.” Justin Jackson 37% from 3 in 2017. Nailed it.
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EPISODE 5 – 10/4/16
Jones and Adam Recap The Huge Upset of Florida State (50:14)
Guest
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Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam: “In terms of what I think that kick is gonna do, I’d compare it to Chad Flack’s HR at Alabama. Where it just, that one thing–” Jones: “Broke the ceiling.” Maybe not…but the ceiling is the roof.
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EPISODE 6 – 10/7/16
Jones and Adam preview the Va Tech matchup and are joined by Jeff Saturday (1:13:05)
Guest
Jeff Saturday
Highlights
First pod over an hour.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (2:03): “The Tar Heels and Hokies may play in some rain. It’ll be inconvenient, but you always remember those games you go to and it’s all rainy.” 100% correct. Anyone who attended the VT “hurricane game” will never forget it.
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EPISODE 7 – 10/11/16
Jones and Adam look back at the Va Tech game and look ahead to hoops media day (52:30)
Guest
None
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones (28:15): “The problem is, [the Villanova loss] is never gonna be forgotten.” It still won’t be, but the feeling around it now is very much “beginning of happy story” rather than “end of sad story.”
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EPISODE 8 – 10/14/16
Jones and Adam preview Late Night with Roy and have a special guest (1:03:53)
Guest
Jesse Holley
Highlights
– At 38:10 Jesse Holley tells an awesome MJ/Dean story.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Discussing the non-conference football games in 2019 and 2021 between UNC and WF, Jones (11:25): “How confused is everyone going to be when those games don’t count on the conference schedule?” This may be the most accurate prediction ever made on the pod.
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EPISODE 9 – 10/18/16
Jones and Adam recap the weekend win at Miami (1:00:20)
Guest
None
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (38:25): “I think Jesse Holley is your guy for as long as he is willing and able to [host Late Night].”
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EPISODE 10 – 10/21/16
Jones and Adam take your questions from Twitter and talk with TJ Yates (59:25)
Guest
TJ Yates
Highlights
– The pod opens with Adam referring to the podcast as “the pod” for the first time and questioning whether that was (a) allowed and (b) cool. We can confidently say (a) yes and (b) we think so.
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EPISODE 11 – 10/25/16
Jones and Adam discuss the win over Virginia, preview hoops and more (53:53)
Guest
None
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (38:35): [Regarding Theo’s injury] “You also lose the guy who is willing to do whatever you tell him to do… Kenny Williams might be capable of doing that, but is he willing to be that guy?” It’s funny how you look back at players after their careers and totally forget that you didn’t always KNOW their personalities. Can you imagine questioning Kenny Williams’ willingness to sacrifice for the team today? But in 2016, we had no clue if he would or not.
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EPISODE 12 – 10/28/16
Jones and Adam discuss hoops getting close and have a conversation with Jay Bilas (52:04)
Guest
Jay Bilas
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jay (22:55): “North Carolina I think will be really good. Will they be as good as last year? Probably not.” We’ve got some news for you, Jay… 2017 National Champs.
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EPISODE 13 – 11/1/16
Jones and Adam discuss the bye week for the Heels, and more (56:15)
Guest
None
Highlights
– The initial mention of LASERS (19:40).
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EPISODE 14 – 11/4/16
Jones and Adam talk World Series, and visit with Brian Simmons (1:17:20)
Guest
Brian Simmons
Highlights
– First mention of LOW POWER MODE (1:11:50)
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones (19:40): “Whenever the Larry Fedora tenure is done, and hopefully that’s 30 years from now when he decides to retire as the all time winningest head coach in ACC FB history…”
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EPISODE 15 – 11/8/16
Jones and Adam talk about Carolina’s win over GT and the hoops exhibition win against UNC-Pembroke (51:41)
Guest
None
Highlights
– El Paso SLANDER at the 25 and 29 minute marks, culminated by Adam correctly predicting Carolina would be in it that season. This is clearly before we learned that El Paso rocks.
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EPISODE 16 – 11/11/16
The guys have a conversation with Carolina Basketball’s all-time leading scorer, Tyler Hansbrough (42:16)
Guest
Tyler Hansbrough
Highlights
– Jones gets Tyler to admit that he believed Henderson hit him in the face on purpose at the 16:19 mark.
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EPISODE 17 – 11/15/16
Jones and Adam break down the busy weekend of Tar Heel Sports (1:02:11)
Guest
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Highlights
– Post Duke FB loss and Tulane/Chat BB wins.
– Around the 13-minute mark there is a discussion of the bucket seats at Wallace Wade and that maybe they aren’t that great. After sitting in them in Kenan, this has proved incorrect. The bucket seats are great.
– Also, more importantly, at the 57-minute mark Adam says that he updated his phone. This is likely the last time he did so.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– At the 8:30 mark, in discussing Carolina’s lack of an interception all season (AFTER 10 GAMES), Jones says they probably won’t get one against the Citadel either (because they rarely throw). But… PICK 6!!!!
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EPISODE 18 – 11/22/16
Adam gives updates on the Tar Heels in Maui and recaps the win over the Citadel plus a look ahead to NC State (48:17)
Guest
None
Highlights
– Post Citadel FB win
– Adam in Maui.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (41:00): I do think what happens [against State] will go a long way towards determining how Carolina fans feel about the 2016 season. Spot on. Lost to the Pack, and in hindsight that was the clear “beginning of the end” of the Fedora era.
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EPISODE 19 – 11/29/16
Jones and Adam review a busy week of Tar Heel athletics including Carolina’s Maui Invitational Championship (52:49)
Guest
None
Highlights
– Post NCSU FB loss and Maui BB title.
– Second reference to LASERS.
– We learn that Theo Pinson refers to Wifi as “weefee” for fun.
– References to both Top of the Hill and Werner, despite neither being sponsors of the pod (at that time).
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (14:14): “I just think the Sun Bowl is why they invented Georgia Tech.” Again, this was before we knew El Paso really rocks.
– At 46:45 we have the first reference to Jones’ Christmas inflatables.
– Also, at 48:20 Adam suggests a Christmas Spectacular podcast. How did we live prior to this holiday tradition?
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EPISODE 20 – 12/2/16
Jones and Adam discuss Carolina basketball’s game at Indiana, Smith Center seating and talk with Tar Heel basketball junior, Theo Pinson (1:11:09)
Guest
Theo Pinson
Highlights
– Post Indiana BB loss in Bloomington.
– Around the 23-minute mark there is a discussion about how to appropriately distribute student tickets to basketball games.
– Plus, at 26:15, another reference to low power mode.
– Also, at 1:08:40, as a follow up to comments from Theo about Joel, Berry’s motivational tactics (finding ways to feel slighted) are compared to MJ’s.
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EPISODE 21 – 12/6/16
Jones and Adam talk about Carolina’s invitation to the Sun Bowl, Kenny Williams’ big game vs Radford and FREE Tar Heel Basketball tickets (47:11)
Guest
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Highlights
– Jones gives El Paso fun facts, including that many establishments in El Paso are legally required to provide spittoons.
– At the conclusion of the episode, Adam deems it “probably the most educational pod” they’ve done so far. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones/Adam exchange (4:05): Jones compares going to El Paso to making a down payment on a house. This was supposed to be a selling point for El Paso.
– At 18:55, the guys are excited to see Christian McCaffrey play in the Sun Bowl. If only he had played.
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EPISODE 22 – 12/9/16
Jones and Adam recap the game against Davidson, choose the #lowpowermode ticket winner and talk with current Tennessee head coach Rick Barnes about is [sic] history with the Tar Heels (41:51)
Guest
Rick Barnes
Highlights
– The origination of the phrase “El Paso rocks.”
– At 13 minutes, discussion of Kennedy Meeks diving on the floor and getting a big offensive rebound late in the Davidson game – some serious foreshadowing of the national championship.
– At 23 minutes, Jones actually reads the official nine reasons why El Paso rocks.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, quoting Bob McKillop (19:55): “HOLY CHRISTMAS!”
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EPISODE 23 – 12/13/16
The guys talk Tennessee/Carolina basketball recap, talk Tar Heel basketball freshmen. (48:10)
Guest
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Highlights
– The episode opens with Jones and Adam “rapping” Whoomp There It Is by Tag Team (luckily, things improved from here).
– At 35:45, Adam announces the hiring of “Director of Pod Security,” Rusty Cotterman.
– The episode wraps up (around 40:15) with Jones going on an absolutely outstanding rant about the change of the green Skittle flavor from lime to green apple – approximately three years prior. This was the first of many Skittles references to come. Come for the diatribe against the folks in the Skittles board room, stay for Jones’ definition of “The Skittle” (shoving all of them in your mouth at once).
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– At 13:45, Jones compares Seventh Woods to Brian Morrison. Little did he know similar their career paths would wind up being.
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EPISODE 24 – 12/16/16
Jones and Adam preview Carolina/Kentucky basketball and talk with Tar Heel Football’s Ryan Switzer (1:40:38)
Guest
Ryan Switzer
Highlights
– Discussion of the Wake Forest football game plan scandal.
– A preview of the upcoming Kentucky game (in Las Vegas).
– More El Paso discussion.
– No podcast based in North Carolina has ever discussed El Paso more.
– At 28:30, there is brief discussion of folks listening to the pod on 1.5x speed. In full disclosure, the founders of this site are split in their opinions on 1.5x speed.
– At 36:50, Jones informs us of his recent misfortune with his (now disposed) Maui Jim sunglasses and eventually solicits opinions on what his replacement pair should be by taking a picture of himself in each pair and posting it to Twitter. During this, he said he was just “keeping a serious face” for the picture. This was before Arms Crossed Serious Face became a thing. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (18:40), discussing John Calipari’s media games: “Don’t tell me in December they’re not good enough to beat Carolina and in March they’re all going to the NBA.” Zing!
– Also Adam (27:10), when discussing the potential “El Podso” podcast: “What’s the pod equivalent of a Grammy? That’s what I think the El Podso could possibly win.” Well, Adam. It’s called a Poddy.
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EPISODE 25 – 12/20/16
Jones and Adam recap Kentucky/Carolina basketball, talk with ALCS MVP Andrew Miller and the Christmas Spectacular! (1:36:55)
Guest
Andrew Miller
Highlights
– The guys recap Carolina’s 103-100 loss to Kentucky in Vegas (around 8:00, there is a discussion of the infamous Roy Williams jacket throw).
– At 11:30, there is discussion of Roy Williams’ end of game timeout strategy. Knowing how the second Carolina/Kentucky game finished in the Elite 8, it’s fascinating to hear the similarities this game had to that one…and how much the Heels may have learned from it.
– Discussion of Christian McCaffrey (and other elite players) sitting out bowl games.
– Jones selects new sunglasses.
– At the 59 minute mark, the Christmas Spectacular begins. Honestly, it’s probably going to get its own page on this site. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (30:25): “Las Vegas opens its arms and also lowers its pants for you.” Jones (1:09:20): “I like the cheesy Hallmark Channel Christmas movies.” (Don’t worry, this topic will be re-visited in future episodes.)
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EPISODE 26 – 12/27/16
Jones and Adam talk about Carolina and ACC Basketball, preview the Sun Bowl, talk to El Paso mayor, Oscar Leeser (1:02:05)
Unofficial Description
The guys open up with some basketball discussion, initially about the Northern Iowa game, then move on to players (Nate Britt, Isaiah Hicks…Malik Monk, Grayson Allen) and the landscape of the league in general.
That is followed by a Sun Bowl preview and a conversation with the mayor of El Paso.
Plus, Adam can’t pronounce things correctly.
Guest
Oscar Leeser, mayor of El Paso and noted Hyundai dealership owner/Sun Bowl sponsor
Highlights
– Both of the guys admit to never having seen Christmas Vacation all the way through, a deficiency that the Road House Challenge will eventually rectify.
– Adam’s pronunciation issues rear their ugly head for the first time, with just this episode featuring problems with naked vs “nekkid,” Daisy Fuentes, and Hyundai.
– A great King Rice story from Adam at the 57-minute mark.
– Final Pod of 2016
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, discussing Malik Monk’s stat line in the game following the UNC game (15:10): “This is the one that’s gonna make you wanna punch yourself in the face.”
– Adam, predicting what record will win the ACC (23:20): “I don’t think anybody’s getting to 15-3.” Ding, ding! The Heels win the league (by TWO games) at 14-4.
– Jones, criticizing Adam’s pronunciation (37:10): “Why do you say things so weird???”
– Mayor Leeser (53:15): “El Paso really, really rocks.”
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EPISODE 27 – 1/3/17
The guys review the Sun Bowl, look back at Carolina basketball’s game versus Georgia Tech and look ahead to ACC play (54:15)
Unofficial Description
Football discussion opens the Pod, with a recap of the Sun Bowl loss to Stanford, talk of Mitch Trubisky’s impending NFL decision, and looking ahead to next season.
Then the book is closed on El Paso as the guys give their thoughts on the city that rocks.
In more depressing news, the basketball loss to Georgia Tech is rehashed. 
A little chat about the Monmouth victory and the ACC weekly schedule.
Guest
None
Highlights
– First Pod of 2017
– After all of the hype, after seeing it in person, El Paso is described as “fine” and “nice for a day.”
– Brief conversation about Coach K missing four weeks of the season with back surgery, which you’ve probably forgotten happened.
– Neither Jones nor Adam have New Year’s resolutions
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, discussing El Paso (16:30): “Home is what you get used to.” Deep stuff, here.
– Adam, talking about the basketball game against GT (27:25): “And I think if Carolina had played worth a toot…”
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EPISODE 28 – 1/6/17
Jones and Adam discuss Carolina’s big win at Clemson, the strength of the ACC and country music superstar/Tar Heel superfan Eric Church joins the show (1:23:28)
Unofficial Description
A recap of the win in Littlejohn and Brad Brownell’s odd during- and post-game anger.
Then a discussion of the upcoming game against NC State, including the potential of winter weather impacting its ability to be played.
Plus an interview with Eric Church.
Guest
Eric Church
Highlights
– The guys discuss their oldest t-shirts and sushi within the first 10 minutes.
– A lengthy discussion about Kennedy Meeks’ offensive rebounding, which seems like it was a theme of the entire season.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, opening the show (0:18): “Let’s get this Poddy started.”
– Jones, clearly lobbying to become the official voice of the don’t text and drive PSA (33:42): “I am all about safety on the roadways.”
– Adam, stealing a violent line from Jones just two episodes prior (45:50): “That’s why that Georgia Tech game is going to make you want to punch yourself in the face for the next three months.”
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EPISODE 29 – 1/10/17
The guys discuss the Tar Heels’ 51-point win over NC State, inclement weather and NFL decisions shaping Carolina football’s 2017 season (1:02:05)
Unofficial Description
The episode opens with the guys discussing snow, blizzards, and driving in winter weather, then circle around to when a college basketball game should or should not be cancelled due to weather.
After masking their giddiness with other topics for as long as they could, Adam and Jones then recap the 51 point blowout over NC State.
Once the 51 point drubbing was fully appreciated, conversation moved to Elijah Hood and Mitch Trubisky declaring for the NFL draft and the impact on the football team next season.
Guest
None
Highlights
– Jones watched Rocky III over the weekend, and then (foreshadowing its future Road House Challenge appearance) proclaims Rocky IV is the best Rocky.
– Both of the guys declare their Bachelor fandom.
– Adam humble brags on Asher making 3 mid-court shots at halftime of the State game.
– Brief discussion of basketball halftime acts.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, ranting about northerners complaining about southerners driving in winter weather (4:00): “Shut up and quit your whining.” 
– Adam (24:30): “We can probably agree that Georgia Tech is the least talented team…they will not get beat by 51 points in the ACC.” Jones: “I think Duke already did it, didn’t they?”
– Jones (53:23): “There are very few jobs I would leave my current job for, I would leave it to be the host of The Bachelor.” (This is followed by a very humorous joke about the difficulty of following Woody.)
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EPISODE 30 – 1/13/17
Jones and Adam breakdown Carolina’s win at Wake Forest, give away free Tar Heel basketball tickets and talk to Carolina great JR Reid (1:06:27)
Unofficial Description
The episode opens with the guys discussing the ’89 ACC Championship game.
Prior to recapping the win over Wake Forest, there is lengthy praise for Cook Out. 
Then an interview with JR Reid.
Finally a ticket giveaway and a quick look ahead to the FSU game.
Guest
JR Reid
Highlights
– In a brief discussion of former Tar Heels in the media, Vince Carter’s name gets mentioned and Adam jokes that he still has 10 more years in the league. While it was clearly a joke, Vince still got almost halfway there.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones (6:00): “You wanna talk about sponsorships on the Pod? We should get Cook Out.” I have some good news for you, Jones. 
– Adam (9:00): “You can combine shake flavors.” More foreshadowing, folks. 
– Jones (17:40), discussing Wake Forest basketball: “They’re gonna be very solid in the next year or two. I think they’re gonna be a really tough team in the next year or two.” Don’t worry…you can’t get them all right, Jones.
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 EPISODE 31 – 1/17/17
Jones talks Carolina basketball’s big wins, Roy Williams’ 800th win and more! (1:07:38)
Unofficial Description
The episode begins with a discussion of the wins over FSU and Syracuse, then moves on to Roy Williams earning his 800th win and more Roy-centric conversation.
After some discussion about how Jones and Adam interact with fans, there’s some brief football talk and a debate over Carolina’s best quarterback of all time.
Adam is in this episode, as well, despite the title making it sound like it is only Jones.
Guest
None
Highlights
– Second pod recorded at night, but pre-dates the coining of the “Pod After Dark” term.
– Jones talks about how he is often confused with Adam, which seems…strange.
– Do not criticize Jones and end the criticism with, “son.” Don’t do it. 
– At 50:00, the first unintentional swearing on the Pod occurs. 
– At 50:25, Adam does a very brief Forrest Gump impression. Worth a listen.
– Adam suggests a Carolina Basketball “convention” for fans. It has been three years. Why has this not happened?
– Clips of the Circle of Life song are played numerous times throughout the episode in reference to Theo holding Roy Williams’ new shoes up like Simba. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (17:10): “I feel better about how good this team is right now today than I did about last year’s team at this same day.” It turns out the ending of the season felt better too.
– Adam (23:20), discussing Jones’ work during the 800th win celebration: “You did a really good job at mid-court holding the whole thing together because those things are not as easy as they look.” Just ask Dick Grubar.
– Adam (25:50): “Roy Williams is gonna win more games than Dean Smith.” Adam was on fire with accurate predictions this episode.
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 EPISODE 32 – 1/20/17
Jones and Adam relive some of their most memorable Carolina moments and a terrific conversation with the 2005 Final Four’s Most Outstanding Player, Sean May (1:10:51)
Unofficial Description
With no games since the last episode, a variety of topics were covered this episode. Favorite in-person non-championship moments. The joys and pains of being a fan of a team. Who will be the next basketball coach at UNC (but only ever so briefly). 
Guest
Sean May
Highlights
– The Pod gets its very own Twitter account.
– The entire Sean May interview is pretty much a highlight. Just do yourself a favor and listen to the whole thing. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Sean May (33:20), on whether or not he ever had a concussion: “Yeah, I had plenty, because I played with Damion Grant.”
– Sean May (45:00): “I know Coach loves the ’09 team, but…we [2005] are better.”
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 EPISODE 33 – 1/24/17
Jones and Adam review Carolina’s win over BC and talk to former Tar Heel player and longtime NBA coach, George Karl. (1:11:32)
Unofficial Description
The episode opens with some buildup to the upcoming George Karl interview.
Then, some rare Boston-centered topics – a recap of the win against Boston College, discussion of Boston as a city/sports town, and the (first telling of) the BC baseball trailer story.
A lengthy conversation about leadership on basketball teams and the leaders on the 2017 squad.
Finally, the interview with George Karl.
Guest
George Karl
Highlights
– The BC baseball trailer story.
– A listing of the favorite Cookout shakes of many listeners, many of which include banana.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– George Karl (59:40): “For 20 or 30 years, basketball was my priority, and now I think life is my priority.”
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 EPISODE 34 – 1/27/17
Jones and Adam break down Carolina’s victory over Virginia Tech and answer listener questions. (52:29)
Unofficial Description
A recap of the victory over the Hokies and Theo Pinson’s ankle injury is followed by a trip down memory lane, as the guys discuss the best in-game dunks of all time, the best Tar Heel duos of all time, and some of their favorite hustle players of all time.  
Guest
None
Highlights
– First official “Pod After Dark.”
– An update on where things stand on The Bachelor.
– The episode fades to black (fancy way of saying “ends”) with a playing of “Oh, Canada,” which is a significant change of pace from RZA. Of course, this pre-dates RZA.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (29:23): “Do you think they’ll ever be a time in my life that Creighton will lose and it will not make me happy?” We’ll let you know if that day ever comes.
– Adam (31:05): “I’m just gonna go out on a limb and say a month and a half from now when the brackets are released, I believe Carolina and Villanova will be somewhere in close proximity to one another.” Selection committee couldn’t find a way to make this happen on account of both teams being 1 seeds. Villanova couldn’t find a way to make it happen on account of losing in the second round.
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EPISODE 35 – 1/31/17
The guys recap the Carolina/Miami game, look at the 2017 football schedule and more (58:08)
Unofficial Description
A recap of the loss to the Hokies is followed by talk of the impact of Theo Pinson’s injury and Carolina’s struggle against the zone, before a look ahead at the upcoming contest against Pitt. 
Then discussion of the football schedule release and the impending (inaugural) mid-season release of the top 16 seeds by the Selection Committee. 
Guest
None
Highlights
– Adam expresses his dislike for the city of Miami, which leads to another mention of our old friend, El Paso.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (21:25), discussing UVA: “And Carolina’s still gotta play them twice. One of which is on the back end of one of those 48 games and they’re both road games. That’s gonna be rough. Just go ahead and mark that down. That’s gonna be rough…at Pitt on Saturday, at Virginia on Monday.” Destroyed Pitt. Scored 43 points against UVA in the loss. Good call, Adam.
– Adam boldly proclaims that he would live in any of the 20 largest cities in America ahead of Miami, forcing Jones to look up the 20 largest cities in America and ask Adam about each one. At 51:10, Jones asks about Phoenix: “I haven’t been there in a long time.” Good news, Adam. You’ll head there in April. And it will be glorious.
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EPISODE 36 – 2/3/17
The guys review Carolina’s victory over Pitt and an extended interview with former Carolina basketball team statistician and Emmy Award winning producer, Freddie Kiger (1:23:40)
Unofficial Description
A quick recap of the win over Pitt followed by an even quicker look ahead to Notre Dame, to quickly get to a lengthy interview with Freddie Kiger.
Guest
Freddie Kiger
Highlights
– Adam opens the episode with a “poducation” pun.
– We apologize for mentioning this, but do you recall when Clemson won in Chapel Hill in 2020 and Roy Williams fell on the sword and said he forgot to remind the team to foul because the Heels were up three? And how everyone said “has that really always been Roy’s strategy?” Well guess what? Up three at the end of the Pitt game, Carolina fouled, and Roy said “I always like doing that.”
– Much like Sean May’s interview, the entire conversation with Freddie was a highlight, but to pick a few top moments from it: he makes no bones about the fact that Billy Packer was just a miserable individual to work with, tells a great story about Dean Smith having him track what official made what call for two years before finally telling him he saw no trends and he could stop tracking it, and talks about working on creating the tribute video to Dean Smith.
– Adam refrains from asking Olympic questions to Freddie, saying it would be possible to do an entire Olympic-only podcast with him. Well, one day the Olympics will happen again (we think), so let this serve as a reminder to Jones and Adam to get Mr. Kiger back on the horn. 
– Around 1:10:20, Freddie lists people he used to work with at WCHL, which is basically just a Who’s Who list of future Pod guests – Jim Lampley, Mick Mixon, Draggan Mihailovich…
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Freddie, on the Civil War (1:05:45): “We’re still wrestling with many of the issues that created a circumstance that allowed us to kill 700,000 Americans. States vs. Federal rights. Civil rights. We’re still trying to come to grips with a lot of that.” Sounds like things today aren’t drastically different than they were in 2017, eh?
– Great audio clip from Davis Leisure (spelling may or may not be correct there), a five year old who memorized Jones’ entire Nick Weiler game winning field goal commentary which was then recorded and played on the Pod.
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EPISODE 37 – 2/7/17
Jones and Adam review Carolina’s win over Notre Dame, preview the first match-up of the season with Duke and relive some of their favorite Duke/Carolina memories. (1:07:10)
Unofficial Description
A recap of the victory over Notre Dame (played in Greensboro due to a “water crisis” in Chapel Hill) and a preview of the Duke game, including a big vs. small strategy debate, and then just reminisce about old Duke/Carolina games.
Guest
None
Highlights
– The guys talk about Carolina’s lack of success against Duke in the first matchup of the season since Roy’s return, highlighting the “crazy circumstances/fluky things” that led to losses in 2012 and 2016. This conversation occurred three years before the 2020 Tre Jones miracle.
– Adam proposes moving Presidents’ Day to the day after the Super Bowl.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, in a discussion about how “noticeable” the officiating was in the ND game while Brian Kersey was in attendance (19:10): “It’ll be interesting to see what the results are from that. I mean, we won’t hear about it. It won’t be like he’ll call us and be like ‘hey Jones and Adam, it’s Brian Kersey, I wanted to tell you how I evaluated those officials.” Well, he may not have called about this particular game, but it turns out he has come on the Pod and essentially explained how officials are evaluated.
– Jones, discussing the 2011 Duke/Carolina game (39:50): “Strickland had that massive dunk, and it was called a charge, and man, I don’t think it was a charge. Even now, six years later.” Correct. As Adam pointed out, 16 years from now, it still won’t be a charge. IT WASN’T A CHARGE.
– Jones (1:02:10): “And I’m not good with names. I get that. Sometimes I forget someone’s name or I know I’m close to it. I’m not good with names.” Tell it to Patty, Jones. Tell it to Patty!
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EPISODE 38 – 2/14/17
Jones and Adam revisit the first Carolina/Duke game, preview the upcoming match up with NC State and discuss Gene Chizik’s exit as Tar Heel football defensive coordinator. (49:42)
Unofficial Description
The guys recap the Duke game, including discussion of Theo Pinson being back but Isaiah Hicks being out. 
Then a look around at the current league standings and the unveiling of the Selection Committee’s mid-season top 4 seeds in each region.
A discussion of Gene Chizik’s resignation.
Plus, granny style free throws.
Guest
None
Highlights
– Adam continues his pod-related pun show opening, dropping a “pod-ner” to begin this edition.
– In some Road House Challenge foreshadowing, Adam discusses the recent 30th anniversary of Dirty Dancing and going to see it in the theater to celebrate. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, in discussing the upcoming game against NC State (26:30): “All signs point to this being the game in which [State] could try to put it all together.” Well, they may have tried, but with a 24 point loss, they failed pretty miserably. 
– Adam, discussing his opinion on movies advertised during the Super Bowl (44:45): “I’ve never been that into comic books, and so I don’t know those people.” Things sure have changed here on Walton’s Mountain. He might still not be into comic books, but he’s seen all the Marvel movies now. 
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EPISODE 39 – 2/17/17
Jones and Adam recap the victory over NC State, look ahead to the match-up with Virginia and talk to former Tar Heel and current member of the Charlotte Hornets front office, Buzz Peterson (1:08:37)
Unofficial Description
Really, the title of the episode kind of captured everything. Some State discussion, some Kenny Williams season ending injury talk, a chat with Buzz Peterson, and a preview of Virginia.
Guest
Buzz Peterson
Highlights
– Adam’s show-opening pod pun is “poddy people.”
– As a follow up to the “notable quote/prediction” from episode 38, Jones admits he was wrong about State’s performance in the game.
– An update on The Bachelor.
– Adam comes down on the wrong side of yet another pronunciation debate, as he manages to butcher Malik Monk’s last name. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, constructing a fantastic sentence (19:55): “I think when Joel Berry thinks that you think that he’s not as good as the other guy, that’s when he really takes it to a whole ‘nother level.”
– Adam, talking about Malik Monk (43:00): “I’m not planning on seeing him anymore, so it really is irrelevant.” Oh, you’ll see him again, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!
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EPISODE 40 – 2/21/17
Jones and Adam recap the Virginia victory, Marcus Paige and Brice Johnson’s honored jerseys and preview the match-up with Louisville. (1:09:28)
Unofficial Description
A recap of the Virginia game.
A lengthy discussion of Justin Jackson being really good at basketball.
The discussion about Marcus and Brice’s jerseys being honored can be recapped as “good players, better people.” 
Twitter provides a hodgepodge of topics before the Louisville preview, including baseball memories and a retired/honored jersey debate.
Guest
None
Highlights
– Adam’s show-opening pod pun involves an “after poddy.”
– Jones uses “low key” a few times during the episode (not to be confused with low power mode).
– An office phone rings in the background during the recording (Jones let it go to voicemail).
– Behind the scenes of Asher Lucas being on Gameday. 
– Great story about chief network engineer Ben Alexander wiping out in the Dean Dome and being caught doing so on security camera.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, talking about the changes in Theo’s game (7:25): “The ceiling’s higher.” In fact, it is the roof. 
– Adam again, starting the Justin Jackson is good at basketball discussion (12:40): “What do we think the chances are that Justin Jackson’s jersey is going up in the rafters?” 100%, Adam. 100%. 
– Jones, talking about calling a baseball game at Duke (34:45): “That’s when the lady came and asked us to talk quieter because she couldn’t hear the PA.” We THINK this story is told again in a later Pod. We’ll keep you informed if we find it. 
– Jones, replying to a question from someone wanting video of old Carolina games with the UNC broadcast as the sound (36:03): “The answer is no. I don’t even know if we have the rights to do that. I’m guessing we don’t. I mean, I guess we could send out just the audio of the games, but I’m not sure anyone would actually want that. Why would you just want the audio of a random game?” Ladies and gentlemen, we present to you: the year 2020. (The Pod did this!)
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EPISODE 41 – 2/24/17
Jones and Adam discuss the win over Louisville, look ahead to the final week of the regular season and talk with former Tar Heel great, Jerry Stackhouse. (1:10:27)
Unofficial Description
A recap of the Louisville game followed by a conversation regarding the wide variety of playing styles in ACC hoops and the benefits of that come tournament time.
Brief discussion of Rick Pitino’s issue with a Carolina fan during the game.
Jerry Stackhouse regales us with some great stories.
Guest
Jerry Stackhouse
Highlights
– Adam breaks out a “poddon the interruption” to keep his pun streak going.
– The Tar Heel Lights app is unveiled for the first time against Louisville.
– Heat of the Moment comes up and winds up taking the guys down an ’80s music rabbit hole.
– We learn that someone has developed a Skittles sorting machine.
– Stackhouse tells the story of how Coach K basically told him that if he didn’t commit to Duke that day, Coach K was going to recruit Joey Beard instead. Jerry’s basic response was “fine, recruit Joey Beard then.” This story is great because everybody wins…except Coach K/Duke.
– The Pod is approaching 100,000 listens! That’s an average of around 2,500 listens per episode. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jerry Stackhouse (43:53): “Success breeds confidence.”
– Adam, questioning Jerry Stackhouse about his future (47:48): “You’ve done this at several different levels now. Would you have any interest in any college coaching at any point in your future?” As it turns out, he did have an interest.
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EPISODE 42 – 2/28/17
Jones and Adam discuss the win over Pitt, the game at Virginia and answer your questions (56:37)
Unofficial Description
The guys open the episode with a recap of the loss at Virginia and some discussion of the Heels having already claimed the top spot in the ACC Tournament.
When the conversation shifts to the earlier win over Pittsburgh, the Pitt students’ cheer sheet is ripped to shreds (metaphorically, not literally). 
It goes without saying, but the episode ends with a variety of topics, largely as a result of going through tweets and emails to the Pod. 
Guest
None
Highlights
– Adam describes the Virginia game as “pod to watch” to open the show with yet another pun.
– In this late night pod (that was not officially described as a “Pod After Dark but WAS described as the “latest pod ever), Jones eats a Cookout tray while recording.
– After episode 39 featured discussion about future Elite Eight opponent Kentucky, Jones and Adam spend a couple of minutes talking about future national championship opponent Gonzaga. They were like fortune tellers of the Tar Heels’ tourney run!
– The Pitt cheer sheet analysis leads to the origination of the dispirited airball chant. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam, describing the difference between Duke and N.C. State (19:08): “One team has excellent basketball players and a Hall of Fame coach, and the other is N.C. State.”
– After somewhat complimenting Duke in his State insult above, Adam gives Duke some hate, as well (39:48): “It is a true fact that Duke students used to be clever and creative and funny. It is also a true fact that they are currently lame.” 
– Adam, with the best fan recruiting philosophy there is (48:33): “I’ve just never cared about recruiting until they sign. I don’t want to invest time in someone who might go somewhere that I don’t care about. Somebody’s gonna come to Carolina. Those are the guys I wanna know about.”
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EPISODE 276 – 5/29/20
Returning to campus & the impact on athletics, “The Motley Fool” investing co-founder David Gardner, UNC BB Freshmen jersey numbers (1:33:48)
Official Description
Carolina Insider Live week two review includes a big Carolina Basketball “what if” and Jones ran a mile while dribbling a basketball (3:50)
UNC laid out the road map to returning to campus…what impact will that have on athletics? (12:21)
UNC grad and co-founder of “The Motley Fool” investing, David Gardner, joins to talk actually disliking the Tar Heels when he first came to Chapel Hill, the ease of investing, comparing stocks to college basketball teams and gives us some stock tips and investing advice (22:15)
Plus: the Cheez-It Bowl is coming to the ACC (1:21:25), our favorite Carolina two-sport athletes (1:22:17), the Carolina Basketball freshmen have their jersey numbers (1:24:09) and an all-time #LocalNews report (1:27:35)
Guest
David Gardner, Co-founder of The Motley Fool
Highlights
– A somewhat random The Real World-esque opening.
– The Carolina Basketball “what if” is a potential starting lineup in 1996 of McInnis, Carter, Stackhouse, Jamison, and Wallace. Woo boy.
– David Gardner’s “one stock” to buy is Shopify, though we should note he is opposed to putting all your eggs in that one basket (SHOP price on 5/29/20 = $757.80).
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EPISODE 277 – 6/5/20
Garrison Brooks/Howard Lee audio, UNC AD Bubba Cunningham joins, it’s almost Poddy season (1:32:09)
Official Description
We had Garrison Brooks and Howard Lee on the Carolina Insider Live! show to discuss the current social and racial climate…the audio of that discussion is included on today’s Pod (12:41).
UNC AD Bubba Cunningham joins to discuss how those social issues relate to Carolina Athletics, his Name/Image/Likeness stance and the plan to have athletes, coaches and staff return to campus (45:49).
Plus: carolinapodfans.com (1:11:19), it’s almost Poddy season (1:19:33), an important question for the future of the #RoadHouseChallenge (1:21:13) and Jones needs someone to explain dew points (1:25:09)
Guests
Garrison Brooks/Howard Lee*, Bubba Cunningham
*Audio from Carolina Insider Live, not pod original/exclusive
Highlights
– Likely one of the top five most serious pods to-date, given that it features conversations on both race relations and student athlete compensation.
– As you would expect, a super serious episode becomes the pod in which Carolina Pod Fans receives its first acknowledgement!
– The important Road House Challenge question is whether to split it into a standalone episode moving forward. Spoiler alert, following a Twitter poll the verdict was yes. We think Adam purchased bots to ensure this result.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Garrison Brooks, on positive things non-minorities can do (27:12): “Listening to learn rather than listening to respond.”
– Howard Lee, with great life advice (38:30): “That’s one thing you don’t wanna do is let a politician start talking.”
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Garrison Brooks, Howard Lee, Bubba Cunningham

EPISODE 278 – 6/11/20
#RoadHouseChallenge: Varsity Blues (1:57:11)
Official Description
It’s our first ever standalone version of the #RoadHouseChallenge as “Varsity Blues” going through the RHC
Guest
None
Highlights
– First ever standalone Road House Challenge
Notable Quotes/Predictions
To prevent this section from turning into a laundry list of popular lines from movies, it’s probably best not to anticipate a lot of notable quotes or predictions from RHC episodes.
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EPISODE 279 – 6/12/20
Donnie Walsh joins the Pod, UNC BB Roundtable w/ Harrison Barnes, Danny Green & Roy Williams (1:38:51)
Official Description
Former Tar Heel basketball player and longtime NBA coach/executive Donnie Walsh joins to talk his Tar Heel days, a life in basketball and (ALLEGEDLY) losing to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s basketball team in high school (11:12).
Then, the audio of the Carolina Basketball roundtable discussion between Harrison Barnes, Danny Green and Roy Williams from the Virtual Pancake Dinner (47:44).
Also, Matt Merletti joins the Pod to tell us how we can help the family of former Tar Heel football player Tommy Davis who tragically lost his life at just 37-years-old (1:07:52).
Plus: there’s a Pod crossword (1:21:35), Adam doesn’t understand what the candy Starburst is (1:23:08) and iguanas are back in the #LocalNews (1:25:39)
Guests
Donnie Walsh, Harrison Barnes/Danny Green/Roy Williams*, Matt Merletti
*Audio from Pancake Dinner, not pod original/exclusive
Highlights
– A rare pronunciation agreement from Jones and Adam, who both properly pronounce “syrup” and “tournament.”
– A request for Carolina Football related story times, with a $10 donation being made to the GoFundMe for the Tommy Davis family for each story received.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Roy William (55:35): “We’ve said Family for 50 years. Duke chose Brotherhood because we already had Family, but we had it for 50 years before they even knew how to spell it.”
– Adam, on STARBURSTS (1:24:25): “Is that a candy as much as it is a lozenge?”
– Jones, replying to Adam’s Starburst hot take (1:24:40): “I wouldn’t be like ‘my throat’s sore, let me grab some Starbursts.'”
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Donnie Walsh, Roy Williams, Matt Merletti

EPISODE 280 – 6/19/20 
Emmy winning producer Draggan Mihailovich joins, Tar Heel FB Stories & the 2020 Poddy nominees! (1:51:12)
Official Description
Chapel Hill native, UNC grad and Emmy winning television producer Draggan Mihailovich joins the Pod to tell incredible stories from his life and career (6:25).
Adam gets (our boy) Bill Leslie to settle a family dispute (1:00:56)
Listener Tar Heel football stories (1:13:40)
The 2020 Poddy nominees are announced! (1:28:59)
Guests
Draggan Mihailovich
Highlights
– At 31:45, Draggan tells a great story about his dad and Andy Griffith. 
– Adam and Jones have a pronunciation agreement for the SECOND EPISODE in a row, with both agreeing on how to pronounce Kerr Lake (Bill Leslie agrees). 
– Dew point is explained, but Jones and Adam still don’t truly understand it scientifically.
– More pronunciation discussions on syrup, Syracuse, and Louisville (for the record, the guys don’t pronounce Louisville the way the fine folks in Louisville do).
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (1:30:04), discussing voting for the Poddys: “This is one of your most important duties as an American.”
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EPISODE 281 – 7/2/20 
#RoadHouseChallenge: Bull Durham (1:02:05)
Official Description
None
Guests
None
Highlights
– Second standalone Road House Challenge.
– A rare “post production” ad insert, with Jones cutting in mid-RHC to list sponsors.
– The “post production” ad insert concludes with equally rare audio of the “Thursday” song. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
Again, we are unlikely to have quotes in standalone Road House Challenge episodes
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EPISODE 282 – 7/10/20 
Ronald Curry joins and The 2020 Poddy Awards! (2:09:57)
Official Description
We are officially worried about sports coming back in the Fall (7:03)
Then, Ronald Curry joins to talk his playing (football and basketball) days at Carolina, coaching in the NFL and how a pair of boxer shorts helped change his commitment from Virginia to Carolina (23:38)
Plus: dipping your fries in a Frosty (1:06:26), Christmas in July (1:09:10), toilet iguanas (1:12:39) and Giant Skittles (1:20:54)
Finally, the biggest event of the Pod summer…the 2020 Poddy Awards! (1:33:34)
Guests
Ronald Curry
Highlights
– A “post production” Jones intro to briefly reference all of the news that broke after the episode was recorded.
– It is (loosely) decreed that there will be a Road House Challenge prior to the 4th of July every year.
– An impassioned pro-mask soliloquy from Adam.
– Ronald Curry, joining via phonograph – not true, but let’s just say this isn’t the highest quality audio you’ll ever hear – tells a great story about how he wound up coming to UNC because of a pair of boxers.
– Fries in a Frosty debate. Jones: never done it (good for you). Adam: it’s terrible (agreed).
– Da Baby / Lil’ Baby rap game update.
– An iguana in a toilet local news reading. Strong, but not the best iguana story ever told on the Pod.
– Skittles updates: America Mix, Skittles Giants. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones (19:45): “Adam does think he’s better than you.”
– Adam (1:49:20): “Well, we couldn’t have had the Governor come to the urinal.”
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EPISODE 283 – 7/17/20 
Veteran sportscaster Jim Lampley joins and the annual Pod AMA (2:17:08)
Official Description
It is getting down to crunch time for Fall sports and the ACC is getting creative in ideas to play football (2:46).
Then, UNC grad and veteran sportscaster Jim Lampley joins with stories from his remarkable career (12:08).
Adam has a double #HCYJT (1:06:15) while Jones takes a trip down memory lane in a #VacationFromLife (1:23:42)
Finally, we answer your questions in our annual Pod AMA (1:40:37)
Guests
Jim Lampley
Highlights
– Discussion of best basketball arenas in the country, including a discussion of Assembly Hall. For a more in depth analysis of Indiana’s home court, see episode 20.
– The first of what may wind up being many, many mentions of Supermarket Sweep. 
– Jones identifies Peter Krause not as a star of Parenthood, but as a star of the best television show in history, Sports Night. Jones earns 37 cool points.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones (57:45): “The Tar Heels will never go there [to Allen Fieldhouse]. At least not when Roy Williams is the head coach.” Time will tell, Jones. Time will tell. 
– Jones (1:04:08), discussing the Carrier Dome: “It’s fine. It’s fine. It’s unique, I guess.” The kind of thing you might say about that kitschy gift your mother-in-law got you for your birthday.
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EPISODE 284 – 7/24/20 
Harris Barton joins, Roy Williams funds scholarships, Pod Year-in-Review Medley (1:35:54)
Official Description
Roy and Wanda Williams funded scholarships for returning senior Spring athletes (3:16) and women’s lacrosse senior Katie Hoeg joins to explain the impact (8:18).
Mack Brown is doing everything right (21:21) and Carolina basketball is on the practice court (25:43)
Former Tar Heel great, 3x Super Bowl champion and College Football HOF nominee, Harris Barton, joins to talk his Carolina career, what made the 49ers so great and life after football (30:13).
Adam’s List includes Daniel Bard’s return to Major League Baseball (1:02:24) and a deep dive on board games and game shows (1:04:15)
Plus, a Pod Year-in-Review medley (1:28:35)
Guests
Katie Hoeg, Harris Barton
Highlights
– A lot of board/card game suggestions and reviews, including Jones’ fantastic description of Play Nine.
– A Supermarket Sweep update. Spoiler alert: it’s still good.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, on COVID-19 impacting football this year (20:00): “You don’t want to hear this. I don’t want to hear this. I don’t want to say this. I hope this is a one year problem.” Again…time will tell, Jones. Time will tell. 
– Harris Barton (43:00): “The value of a North Carolina degree in Atlanta is really remarkable.” Not just in Atlanta, Harris, but otherwise we agree.
– Harris Barton (47:25): “Kids don’t wanna hear your stories, they want you to listen to their stories.” Really sound parenting advice here. 
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Katie Hoeg, Harris Barton

EPISODE 285 – 7/31/20 
New ACC FB Schedule, Bubba Cunningham, Bobby Rome, #HCYJT and more (1:49:47)
Official Description
The ACC released its new football schedule…we break down what it means for Carolina and talk about the reality of playing a FB season in the Coronavirus world (3:26)
Then, audio from Jones’s interview with Bubba Cunningham on the new schedule, eliminating season tickets for this year and Carolina’s financial reality (34:20)
Next, former Tar Heel FB player Bobby Rome joins to talk being a college head coach, growing his own turf, playing in Russia and Bobby tells some incredible Brandon Tate stories (49:29)
Plus: a PSA for Lydia’s dad (1:28:50), #HCYJT (1:31:47), #WhatUp (1:37:07) and water based #IDEWT (1:41:43)
Guests
Bubba Cunningham, Bobby Rome
Highlights
– What will happen first? Pleated pants make a comeback or Notre Dame joins the ACC? 
– A reference to the former and now long-forgotten “You’re Not the Boss of Me” segment. Eventually we’ll write recaps of episodes that include that and we can return to this bullet point and let you know what episodes it appeared in. 
– Adam inadvertently talks about the upcoming “mock draft lottery,” further proving that Carolina sports are far more important than the NBA.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (10:45): “Something is going to happen between now and 2036. Something is going to happen.” In fairness he was talking specifically about Notre Dame potentially joining the conference, but…this is hardly a bold proclamation given that it is currently 2020.
– Adam (33:10): “I don’t feel like the divisions have ever really taken hold as something that is the fabric of the ACC that is just un-changeable.” WHAT??? Have you ever heard of “Coastal Chaos,” Adam? Perhaps the defining piece of ACC football. (That and Clemson.)
– Jones, discussing Karate Kid and other sequels (1:19:25): “Unless you’re set up to be a trilogy, unless that’s you’re goal, I think it’s hard to still be pumping out quality content at number three.” We appreciate the fact that he cited Toy Story 3 as an exception to this, given that before he even referenced it one of us had already said “I don’t know, Cars 3 was pretty good.”
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Bubba Cunningham, Bobby Rome

EPISODE 286 – 8/7/20 
2005 Duke/Carolina BB rewatch, FB Schedule, Ellevest founder Sallie Krawcheck joins (2:28:34)
Official Description
The ACC announced the order and dates of the FB schedule…a quick rundown of Carolina’s draw (1:00)
UNC grad, former CEO of Merrill Lynch and current CEO/co-founder of Ellevest Sallie Krawcheck (named the seventh most powerful woman in the world by Forbes…NO BIG DEAL) joins to talk dominating the business/financial world, her Tar Heel superfandom and we DISAVOW someone who was mean to her in the seventh grade (4:10).
We rewatch a classic Duke/Carolina match-up from March 6th, 2005 with commentary from Jackie Manuel, David Noel, Melvin Scott, Jawad Williams, Marvin Williams, Roy Williams, Scott Williams and more (30:11)
Guests
Sallie Krawcheck
Highlights
– “Season finale” of season 4 of the Pod.
– Jones would have to confirm, but this has to be one of the most heavily edited episodes ever. Not for Adam’s foul language, but for splicing together so many different audio clips.
– At 39:33, the most exciting 10 seconds of audio that exists in the world is played.
– Just a fun clip down memory lane with the 2005 Duke game. Not to take anything away from the Road House Challenge, but the Tar Heel Rewind Carmichael Classic Rewatch Trademark TMs are better than a recap of Karate Kid. 
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Sallie Krawcheck, discussing Christian Laettner (21:00): “He’s so despicable…he should have been put in jail. He is horrible.”
– Jones, speaking the truth that every Carolina fan recognizes, but no college basketball analyst can seem to see (56:37): “Just to prove that time is a flat circle, Shavlik Randolph picked up a third foul and then all we had to talk about was how Duke didn’t have enough good players. I mean, IT’S THE SAME STORY EVERY YEAR! ‘Oh, this team isn’t real deep. They don’t have a real deep bench.’ Well why not? Play those guys! Then you will! You’ve got McDonald’s All-Americans sitting there not playing!”
– Adam (1:07:33): “I think DeMarcus Nelson was the angelic eyes, guy.” Adam, Wayne Ellington would like a word. 
– Jones, just bringing all the Carolina fans’ thoughts (1:49:15): “How come the Tar Heels can never shoot 3 against Duke? EVER!?!?!”
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Sallie Krawcheck

EPISODE 287 – 8/11/20 
College FB is the Wild West, Assoc. AD Rick Steinbacher joins, Mike Fox retires (1:06:03)
Official Description
Things are slightly “fluid” with college football and it seems it is every conference for itself (2:38).
Associate AD Rick Steinbacher joins to talk how Carolina re-did its football schedule, the safety precautions put in place for Tar Heel FB and why Mack Brown is the perfect person to be Carolina’s coach in this crazy time (13:07)
Plus: Mike Fox retired after a stellar career (37:42) and Adam’s List (44:06) includes a #WhatUp for a former Tar Heel basketball player (45:10), New Zealand vs Iceland (46:35) and mind blowing Skittles info (58:49)
Guests
Rick Steinbacher
Highlights
– Jones admits that he regrets not putting Dirty Dancing up for a Poddy award.
– Jones and Adam are both staunchly opposed to the recent DTH announcement of ending the use of the term “student athlete.”
– “Dedicaring” is all but deemed a new word. 
– A little more Supermarket Sweep talk/advice on how to win.
– The mind blowing Skittles info is that each of the flavors TASTE the same – the only difference is the scent.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (7:03): “There’s no set leadership plan of college sports.” WHY IS THIS TRUE AND HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE???
– Rick, extrapolating coronavirus guidance to all areas of life (25:42): “You can mitigate and minimize risk. You can never eliminate it.”
– Rick, quoting Carol Folt (35:13): “Uncertain times are great opportunities for innovation and growth.” Sounds like we currently have a TON of opportunity. 
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Rick Steinbacher

EPISODE 288 – 8/14/20 
College FB Madness, Mike Fox audio, Scott Forbes joins, #FiveSecondChallenge (1:20:36)
Official Description
It’s been a wild week for College Football…we take a look at all the questions swirling around the sport (3:32).
Audio of Jones’s interview with Mike Fox immediately following his retirement as the legendary coach reminisces about his time in Chapel Hill (28:42)
New head baseball coach Scott Forbes joins to talk taking over the program and what his next steps are (38:53)
Plus: the #FiveSecondChallenge is BACK (1:00:25) and we may have found the perfect sports media twitter account (1:08:40)
Guests
Mike Fox*, Scott Forbes
* Audio from a video sit down with Jones and Mike Fox, not pod original/exclusive
Highlights
– Jones and Adam are vindicated in their disdain for the recent DTH decision to stop using the term “student athlete,” as UNC student athletes came out against the choice.
– A movie and television show update from the guys.
– Follow@blauds for all of your weird, confusing, difficult to decipher college football news.
– It’s possible that “just wondering” is going to become a recurring phrase on the pod.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Adam (13:59): “I think by and large, college student athletes are far more disciplined than anyone gives them credit for.”
– Jones, giving his opinion on what should/will happen with college basketball this season (24:37): “I hope someone smarter than me is thinking about it all the time right now.” Preach! People can’t START thinking about a plan for hoops when hoops is supposed to start.
– Jones, in our first ever quote from a promo reader (58:40): “You can unwind at the stylish North & South Bar with its array of bourbons, whiskeys, and scotches. Whoa!!! We used to not even be able to say beer!”
– Adam, discussing the day’s pod (1:18:37): “Front half…pretty serious. Second half…eh. And in the middle…the two baseball coaches.” Adam, we hate to tell you, but that’s not how “halves” work. 
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Scott Forbes

EPISODE 289 – 8/21/20 
Marquise Williams, UNC Director of Sports Medicine Dr. Mario Ciocca, #HCYJT (1:35:20)
Official Description
It has been a busy news week around UNC…we look back at the week (4:07)
We actually talk a little football as training camp is in full swing (15:13)
Former Tar Heel QB Marquise Williams joins to talk being a new father, his Tar Heel career and his love for hockey (21:52)
UNC Director of Sports Medicine, Dr. Mario Ciocca, joins to talk the challenges of COVID and keeping athletes safe (46:47)
PLUS: #FiveSecondChallenge (1:05:43), a listener performs a Skittles smell/taste test (1:17:20) and Adam is hot during #HCYJT (1:26:46)
Guests
Marquise Williams, Dr. Mario Ciocca
Highlights
– Jones introduces Rebecca Black’s Friday by way of a crossword puzzle bit.
– Quise tells the story of how the game-winning pass to Quinshad Davis against Virginia Tech in 2015 was…not the play call Fedora gave him.
– This episode definitely sets the record for most uses of the word “myocarditis” on the show.
– Humorous discussion about football rankings continuing to include teams that are not playing this fall.
– Contradicting news from episode 287, we learn that perhaps different Skittles flavors have different tastes after all. 
– A request is put out to listeners to determine the interest level of a “rapid reactions” post game pod following home football games.
– Adam invokes the name of Charlie Gaddy in his heated #HCYJT about media members making themselves the story instead of…you know, the story being the story.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, discussing how football may look in a post-COVID (or mid-COVID) world (11:00): “If you are anticipating doing anything in your life the exact same way that you did in February, you are going to be sorely disappointed.”
– Adam, getting all riled up during his HCYJT (1:29:25): “Well Auntie Em put the cows in the barn, things are gettin’ loco out here.”
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Marquise Williams, Dr. Mario Ciocca

EPISODE 290– 8/28/20 
FB Scrimmage Info, Bubba Cunningham, Kent Emanuel and more (1:52:04)
Official Description
After a brief pause, Carolina Football had a busy week including its first scrimmage…we have the info (7:04)
Audio from Carolina AD Bubba Cunningham discussing a wide variety of challenges facing Carolina athletics (25:15)
Former Tar Heel pitcher and current member of the Houston Astros, Kent Emanuel, joins to discuss his Carolina playing days, keys to pitching and why he is fighting the 80-game suspension given to him by MLB (38:09)
PLUS: #FiveSecondChallenge (1:06:14), info on the Mack Brown radio show (1:13:43), the Live Pod is back (1:19:50), we need some keyboard help (1:27:09), Franklin Street needs a reboot (1:33:21) and it’s time to finally decide Iceland vs New Zealand (1:40:24)
Guests
Bubba Cunningham*, Kent Emmanuel
*Audio from Carolina Insider Live, not pod original/exclusive
Highlights
– A mention of best car names moves to a question of the worst name for a car, which Adam answers with “Wojo.” Well played, sir.
– Kent Emmanuel defends himself against what quite honestly sound like pretty bogus steroid allegations after hearing his story.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Bubba Cunningham (25:29): “Somebody said to me the other day that it’s the 175th day of March.” That somebody was Bubba himself during an interview with Mark Packer and Wes Durham on the ACC Network. We see you recycling jokes, Mr. Cunningham!
– Jones (1:29:23): “I think there’s a lot of crazy things you can do with a keyboard that I don’t actually understand.”
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Bubba Cunningham, Kent Emmanuel

EPISODE 291– 9/4/20 
FB is almost here, Chris Keldorf, Chazz Surratt, #FiveSecondChallenge (1:30:20)
Official Description
Game week is just days away as the 2020 Carolina Football season is almost here (6:09)
Audio of the Chazz Surratt interview from the video Pod discussing the upcoming season, the uncertainty of the off season and how many Surratt family members will have cutouts in the Kenan Stadium stands (14:13)
Then, former Tar Heel QB Chris Keldorf joins to talk coming to Carolina from the West Coast, the dominant ’96 and ’97 Tar Heel FB teams and having Big Grits as a camp counselor (24:48)
Plus: #FiveSecondChallenge (52:29), the upcoming content schedule (1:03:43), a Covid related what might have been (1:07:34) and we create a magical musical collaboration (1:23:45)
Guests
Chazz Surratt*, Chris Keldorf
*Audio from Carolina Insider Live, not pod original/exclusive
Highlights
– Jones opens the pod by asking if he played the acoustic version of Friday last week. As the official source of all things pod, you’d think we could have found the timestamp on this. But we could not. But it was played, that much we remember. 
– Chris Keldorf talking about Mack Brown’s leadership is an interesting listen and just highlights what a great leader he is.
– Adam does a brief British “ello guvnah” bit when discussing the Austin Peay turnover top hat and cane. It was no Magna Carta speech, but still pretty good.
– A passing comment about how to refer to the Carolina Insider Live video pods. May we humbly suggest “Carolina Insider Vid” or “Carolina Insider Vod?”
– Pete Chilcutt is referred to as “Ol’ Chilly Pete.”
– After learning the keyboard shortcut for the high dot (AKA bullet), Jones spends some time pressing ALT plus random numbers called out by Adam. Despite how it sounds, somehow it was entertaining.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, in an old man voice, while lamenting the fact that getting old causes you to spend money on cutting down trees and replacing air conditioning compressors (58:25): “And then I met Gertrude at the mall, and we walked. But I didn’t feel good because it was gonna rain and my knee was sore.”
– Adam, discussing Jackie Manuel recently being named to the women’s hoops staff (1:14:05): “Yes, that is his official title, Director of Player Personnel and Something with Recruiting.”
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Chazz Surratt, Chris Keldorf

 

May have taken a little hiatus on writing recaps here. Our bad. We’ll fill in this blank soon(ish).

 

EPISODE 304– 10/16/20 
FSU Preview, Javonte Williams joins, BB Practice begins
Official Description
No. 5 Carolina is looking to move to 4-0, but has a difficult road test at Florida State coming…the guys preview the match-up with the Seminoles (6:58)
Kevin Guskiewicz was recently officially installed as the twelfth chancellor at UNC…he joins to talk about his vision for the future and his deep history with Carolina Athletics (23:21)
Tar Heel tailback Javonte Williams joins the Pod for an awesome interview about Carolina’s dominating rushing attack, his eastern North Carolina roots, “Chicken Truck” shirts and his horses, Cash and Pablo (31:38)
Plus: words of wisdom from Tar Heel volleyball coach, Joe Sagula (56:06), Jones tries to get the guys back on track in the #5SecondChallenge (1:00:29) and the guys went to Carolina Basketball’s first practice (1:16:16)
Guests
Kevin Guskiewicz, Javonte Williams
Random Topics
– The story of Jones getting an eraser stuck in his ear is re-told.
– Five Second Challenge: Other than Leon Johnson, name the nine individuals in the Tar Heel top 10 for all purpose yards. (Jones gives three answers, two are correct.)
– James Madison study showing each school’s best overall win-loss record across all sports in the past five years. Tar Heels land at sixth in the nation.
– Will fans be less likely to return to sporting events in person even after COVID ends?
– Jones telling Adam who was in Conference USA in a previous episode is compared to virtual learning.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, in the will people return to stadiums discussion (1:13:55): “Pandemic schman-demic.”
– Jones, updating his quote from minutes earlier (1:15:18): “Pandemic, pants-demic, that’s what I should have said.”
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Kevin Guskiewicz, Javonte Williams

EPISODE 305– 10/20/20 
FSU review and Armando Bacot & Leaky Black join for a BB update & preview
Official Description
Carolina couldn’t dig itself out of a deep halftime hole and fell to FSU on Saturday…the guys look back at the game with the Seminoles (6:32)
Basketball practice has started and we enlist the help of Armando Bacot (23:44) and Leaky Black (32:17) to give us an update on the team and preview the season
Plus: Adam apologizes (55:36), $35 honey (1:02:56), gum buckets (1:08:20) and a special taste test (1:11:26)
Guests
Armando Bacot, Leaky Black
Random Topics
– Daniel Bard is named comeback player of the year, as the Pod previously predicted.
– Everyone is now eligible for a bowl game.
– Joe Biden went to Cook Out
– Adam apologizes to Harper Evans for describing her as a 3-year-old when she is, in fact, 3 months old. 
– It is suggested that Adam conduct interviews while riding a horse, à la Javonte Williams.
– The guys promise to do an interview with a weather-related person at some point in the upcoming offseason.
– Analysis of the first episode of the new Supermarket Sweep (which only Adam actually watched). 
– Chris Hostetler officially recognized in the 100% Club.
– Mesh routers.
– An I don’t even want this from Jones, which focuses on a “gum bucket.” The gum bucket is described as “not as big as a bucket,” and a “plastic cylinder.” To us, it sounds eerily similar to what we call a cup, but who are we to parse words?
– A taste test of the black currant flavor of European GIANT Skittles. Verdict: not good.
Notable Quotes/Predictions
– Jones, recapping the FSU game (8:25): “And then as soon as Florida State blocked that first punt, which it’s disappointing that I have to specify which one I’m talking about.”
– Adam, doing what we can only assume was a spot on impersonation of Charlie Justice (51:47): “This is Choo Choo Justice, see ya later Big Grits!”
– Jones, deciding whether he’d rather host Supermarket Sweep or The Bachelor (1:06:33): “I think it’s Supermarket Sweep now. The Bachelor for me has kinda lived its life. I’m out of The Bachelor game.” (This is a change of direction from Jones’ episode 29 declaration that one of the few jobs he would leave his current job for would be to host The Bachelor.)
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Armando Bacot, Leaky Black, Abram and Kerry Graham (deliverers of Giant Skittles)